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28 August 2009


The centrality of worship - preview
Responding to letters on journalists, atheists and outreach (21 August) I first quote from the Advices & queries introduction (Do Friends not read this any more?):

‘As Friends we commit ourselves to a way of worship which allows God to teach and transform us
  • We have found corporately that the Spirit, if rightly followed, will lead us into truth, unity and love: all our testimonies grow from this leading

  • Therefore, of course, journalists as journalists, cannot join Quaker Meetings for Worship nor any Quaker Meetings since all are Meetings for Worship

  • George Baines

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    Andrew Hatton, Maldon LM, Essex, 01 September
    Fortunately I have an on-line subscription, so the fact that unusually my snail mailed copy of TF did not arrive, I am not prevented from reading this response to my letter published on 21st August.

    1. A journalist present, at a Meeting for Worship for Business, would be an observer and recorder of the worship rather than a participator.

    I see no reason why such a presence would cause any detraction in the quality of the worship.

    2. Were George Bains and Peter Arnold's objections accepted then TF's reporters would not be permitted at any Meetings for Worship for business, if TF is as it describes itself in each issue "INDEPENDENT QUAKER JOURNALISM".

    Peter Arnold, 27 August
    I agree with George Baines (28th August) that things exist of which I have no experience, but worship need not be exclusively of something that cannot be defined.

    Oh dear! Poor journalists.


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